In fact, i love some of the stuff he came up with when he was working for bethesda. It’s the intellectual property of Bethesda and it’s been that way since the first Elder Scrolls game. Yeah, right, they are partly human, partly robot. Get it? The elder scrolls world has it's own unique set of physics and logic that no other fantasy world has. This is part of a larger deal Waldron has signed at Disney, that is … Kirkbride’s independent works aren’t canon, no matter how much he associates them with in-game lore. Important stuff is, that Numidium, which only talks in empty speech bubbles, meaning it constantly negates the Aurbis' existence, is bested by Jubal, the story's hero, who follows Vivec's lessons and thus walked at least one way. PS: I apologize for my inadequate English, I'm young and still learning. Erethor has it on the money. Anyways, TES lore is original enough without it. It shall feel alien, it does to me too and I feel uncomfortable thinking this happened. 36 Lessons of Vivec were written by MK, though I don't recall if he had a co-writer for it like in some of his other in-game books. I understand that there are many unanswered questions in lore and that you think that Kirkbride’s works provide answers to those questions. To do so is to exclude everyone who doesn't understand it, including people like me who know a fair amount of "cannon lore" as n00bs. The upcoming Star Wars movie developed and produced by Marvel‘s Kevin Feige now has a writer!. He's probably just trolling the fan community. There's some big Star Wars and Marvel news here, as Kevin Feige has tapped Loki's Michael Waldron to pen his movie set in a Galaxy Far, Far Away before he … be folded into the official lore and will this lore appear in-game? Time and space are one - Everything, all that could ever happen, happens at once and none of it. MICHAEL KIRKBRIDE: Pierwotnie akcja gry [Morrowind - przyp. Harold is right. It just means that they are concepts personified, really, really powerful as they not only embody their sphere, but rather are their sphere, everywhere, at every time. And yes, while ES has always leaned more towards sic fi, the C0DAverse turns it into a goddam Star Wars ripoff. User Polls. For example, video games, novels, comics, and movies about a fictional universe are usually separated into different continuities, so that they may all be canon without conflicting with each other. But in Sailor Moon, he was doing something too personal, too different from the original plan. Michael Kirkbride (concept artist and writer) The unsung hero of The Elder Scrolls is probably Kurt Kuhlmann, and he was hired on the same day I … Micheal Kirkbride's non-payroll writings and all the other fanfic nonsense would be the area surrounding the paper; it is not a part of the paper in any way, shape, or form. Lore should belong to everyone, not some corporation.”Despite what Michael Kirkbride says, no, the Elder Scrolls mythology/lore is not open source. Nasu, the author of the Fate series, of Tsukihime and so on worked on a multiverse way better than this. I like the stuff that MK did when he worked for Bethesda, but that doesn't mean we should trust some of the other stuff he wrote when he wasn't working for them anymore. Michael Waldron, who penned Doctor Strange In … Michael Kirkbride has been credited on games developed by the following companies: Bethesda Game Studios, Visceral Games (Redwood Shores), Bethesda Softworks LLC, Telltale, Inc., 7 Studios, Inc., LucasArts, Sega Studios San Francisco, Amaze Entertainment, Inc., … Sorry, but you sir, didnt get anything, really. I just don't see why everyone deifies him and accepts these concepts as some sort of goddam bible of TES lore. Did know that the uniqueness of TES that you talk about is largely due to MK? But just because something is official doesn’t make it canon. A user brought Michael Kirkbride('s Lore) in our Wiki and (re)writed articles like Aka-Tusk (Akatosh,..) or Talos. I never was sure if The Imperial Library was lore or had fanfictions as well. It’s the intellectual property of Bethesda and it’s been that way since the first Elder Scrolls game. They may only ever act according to what they are, and they cannot change that. It doesn’t matter if it answers something or not, it still can’t be considered lore.“If you don’t like what we have to say, then just ignore us.”When you tell people new to lore that Kirkbride’s works are lore, either through blatant lies or lies by omission, and when you add such content to wikis, that’s something that I can’t ignore.In closing, someone new to Elder Scrolls lore should be able to find out everything they need to know in the official material itself. You don't need metaphysical bullshit to explain a multiverse, you don't need Dreams and Concepts to create it. The paper has little dots and scribbles here and there, but there is plenty of blank, white spaces in between each marking. Ask Me Anything. Talos changes back into Lorkhan, and his heart is restored - but not the Morrowind one, rather it's replaced by Aka. In this timeline, all the stuff that we know from TES has happened as well, pretty much the same way. I understand that may not everyone's taste, as it takes some time to really get what he means, but that doesnt make it less valid. Only material officially released or endorsed by ZeniMax/Bethesda can be considered canon. He only has as much influence as the development team allows, or rather requires, and then usually it’s with his own works. but that isn't the only way to describe a complex universe, working with vague concepts and so on. Michael Kirkbride has also said that N'Gasta the Sload was based off of him wanting to draw Jabba the Hutt. I just don't see why everyone deifies him and accepts these concepts as some sort of goddam bible of TES lore. It doesn’t matter who it’s from or what it says; it’s not lore and I can’t treat it as such. A multiverse is a result of the infinite possibilities that are born from Free Will. Remember that Marvel Studios' boss Kevin Feige is developing and executive producing a new Star Wars movie?Well, that little mystery project has finally found some momentum. P.P.S. I would be so grateful, because that's actually the only problem (but a big one) in our community and as I said, nearly no one every heard about this .. obscure lore. We may interchange human and mortal as well as robot and et'Ada - Pelinal was partly human, partly robot. To do so is to exclude everyone who doesn't understand it, including people like me who know a fair amount of "cannon lore" as n00bs. I accept people's decisions to like MK's writings, but know this. To do so is to exclude everyone who doesn't understand it, including people like me who know a fair amount of "cannon lore" as n00bs. And yes, while ES has always leaned more towards sic fi, the C0DAverse turns it into a goddam Star Wars ripoff. So don't expect TES VI to be crawling with references from kirkblade's works. Back before Morrowind, Bethesda Game Studios allowed their fans to write their lore (IIRC, the name of the Aedra "Akatosh" came from one of the old TES forum users, "Also Known As Tosh", or "Aka Tosh"). And concerning Bethesda and their relation to him, well, the Thalmor in Skyrim were his idea, Alduin obviously inherits alot from the Aldudagga, even the painted cows are there, Heimskr's speech, Septimus Signus screams to the lore community and he's friends with the autors, I dont think you can do that balance act more graciously than Bethesda does between including him and keeping him hidden, so there you have that. In his dialogue, Tobias quotes at least two historical figures. Vehk’s Teachings) and the teasers and reports before Oblivion (e.g. In-universe, these are all quotes from Frandar Hunding. Tobias Quotes . It's fun to produce a good headcanon as this, but as long as it isn't put into the original material, it remains HEADcanon. Published: 21:29 … That last paragraph was just to point out hypocrisy. Quote: And in answer to how I really feel about Kirkbride, I dislike some of his non-canon works, especially the style of writing, and actually enjoy most of his canon works just as much as any other writer’s works, but I also have the sense to keep things in context. And even if he is that’s also irrelevant.“You just don’t like Kirkbride’s works.”It doesn’t matter what I like. Memory is dying off as well, people are forgetting who they are. MK lore doesn't have that. ... Więc wyjaśniłem: "Powinniśmy z tego zrobić skrzyżowanie Dark Crystal i Star Wars". Understanding references, even if hidden, and decoding are more important than anything else to understand his writing. It doesn't fit the atmosphere of the elder scrolls universe. Submitted by Lady N on Wed, 11/27/2013 - 12:49. Important stuff is that Aka(tosh) is totally broken by the permanent presence of the activated Numidium, and linear time has ceased to exist. Now that may sound totally alien, but thats because its supposed to be that way. It doesn't fit the atmosphere of the elder scrolls universe. I just don't see why everyone deifies him and accepts these concepts as some sort of goddam bible of TES lore. Dec 10, 2012 - Bonelord concept art by Michael Kirkbride (Morrowind). Jan. 7 (UPI) --Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige has tapped Loki writer and executive producer Michael Waldron to pen his upcoming Star Wars … Anyways, TES lore is original enough without it. Full of methaphors is good writing? Michael Kirkbride - Reddit AMA. I'm aware that MK contributed so much to the TES series while he was working for bethesda. Otherwise they would lose a lot of players and therefore a lot of $. Kirkbride may keep in contact with the developers but he’s no longer a developer himself. After leaving Bethesda he wrote some stories based on his own in-game lore, which many fans interpreted to be canon. It was before Anu and Padomay started interacting. Your theory might even be right. I accept people's decisions to like MK's writings, but know this. Sorry about that. By treating outside material as lore, you’re essentially promoting a popular theory about lore as lore itself. But you should have the information in the German Wiki, but I think you should make note that it comes from an out-of-game source that may or may not be actual canon TES lore. But it's a lot of the stuff he wrote AFTER he left that irks me. It ultimately makes the game lore feel like quantum physics or something that only the most die hard lore fans can understand. It is in my opinion good to mention that theses informations exist and could be accurate, even if a little warning is needed, due to their specific nature. That's how it works. Despite what Michael Kirkbride says, no, the Elder Scrolls mythology/lore is not open source. He was not fully an et'Ada though, he was merely sent down; partly mortal, partly et'Ada. But likewise, you shouldn’t force your beliefs on others, and that is what you’re doing when you treat Kirkbride’s works as lore. MP] miała toczyć się na Wyspach Summerset. He was born in Østerbro, Copenhagen, to Bente Christiansen, a nurse, and Henning Mikkelsen, a banker. Rather it means that et'Ada are like robots. FUCK YEAH I WROTE LINES FOR DARTH VADER. For new or casual fans this can be confusing because you’re being lied to. MK lore doesn't have that. According to Deadline, Feige originated the project and is producing with Lucasfilm, headed by … And I came up with the idea that he inadvertently created the Alliance and that's canon now, bitches. I'm really not sure, so I'm asking this in your Wiki where I can't find information about this stuff. It’s open-source. And I personally hate all those pushing this headcanon as the real one. Nu-Mantia Intercept, Love Letter from the Fifth Era, etc.) For Pelinal that means what is already known of him. That sounds like telling others what to believe to me.“Yes, I’m treating it as lore, but only as one possible answer.”You’re still missing the point. This took him out of the work, because it doesn't matter how much you are good at something, but if you turn something from others to your own personal universe and betray the original, you aren't gonna be canon. I accept people's decisions to like MK's writings, but know this. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Fan_Interview_III. Anyways, TES lore is original enough without it. He was an avatar of Aka and Lorkhan, making him totally insane. Quote:This is my main problem with MK lore. If a developer gives you a direct answer, he’s wasted a perfectly good question. For example, unused material such as concept art, bonus material, and altered or cut material is usually not canon.“No one can own the Elder Scrolls mythology. You dont even have to take into account that the et'Ada are actually literally ideas of the godhead, one does not have to go that far. C0DA is a brilliant story about how the TES universe came to be the way we know it - playing multiple characters, explaining how all of them are equally valid, and incooperating every story, every background we ever created for our characters into the lore all at once. :) I'm an Administrator of the German The Elder Scrolls Wiki and because of that I've got a question. But I never have heard even once about this stuff. Comparing C0DA to Star Wars is so incredibly inaccurate and inadequate as well, I dont know what to answer here. The equips sign in the above post was supposed to be a minus sign. Thus they should take it with a grain of salt and decide for themselves whether to believe in them or not. Ikuhara is a great director who produced that masterpiece of an anime that is Shojou Kakumei Utena. Robots. They are gods, they are able to do the craziest sh** mortals can not even imagine, but thats also the point - They are gods. Well, robots are per definition determined in what they do by the programming they received. It ultimately makes the game lore feel like quantum physics or something that only the most die hard lore fans can understand. Actually, some people might not realise this, but Elder Scrolls also has breasts in it because a couple of the artists and writers for Morrowind, Michael Kirkbride and Kurt Kuhlmann, were HUGE Star Wars fans. It's setin space, yes, but Kirkbride has a special style of writing. But it should also be mentioned that they come from an out-of-game source that isn't confirmed as canon lore. Let the users decide whether they think it fan-fiction or concrete lore. Otherwise they would lose a lot of players and therefore a lot of $. I am Michael Kirkbride. 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